as been told before.. ada risk di mana-mana, Qoute balik kata-kata Dean FOM dulu.. masa Fahmy tanya apa risikonya amik course BMM (almaklumla.. nak jadik fisrt batch.. kenala banyak soal).. Dean nye jawapan.. "Sedangkan melintas jalan pun ada risikonya.."??? laa.. itu jek komen dia.. .. hehhee.. tatau la relevan ke tak relevan dengan apa nak di cakap nih.. tapi cam tuhla.. risknya ada dimana-mana..
So apa jadik??
Our first investment $780 dah dapat balik dah.. + 44% profits on 14/1 lagi, pastu dah second round about $20 something pun dan dapat balik.. dah masuk semula dalam account STORMPAY. Kami menantikan stock debit card ada balik.. so.. daripada biar jek duit cenggitu .. tak wat pape.. kami decide to roll balik. again $780 .. dan $150 2-3 hari pastu..
Supposenya early February arituh, duit sume dah cashout (masuk semula ke STORMPAY).. amounting / total semua.. $1500 something gak la.. tapi bermulalah peperangan internet di antara STORMPAY dan autoSurf industry..
uhhh.. dahsat gak pergaduhan nih, sampai dah involvement FBI, FTC, ABC4 News dan etc etc..
Sampai skrang nih, still lagi fighting; nih komen on fighting derang (pada pandangan kami la...)
stormpay yang salah.. (hehe.. yek yek oo jek)..
+ memula stormpay suruh semua autosurf program guna diorang as sole payment processor (utk elakkan orang wat fraud - fund guna stormpay, cashoutkan $ kat money processor lain)
+ 12dp and other follow the rules - tapi tetibe semua akaun autosurf di stormpay kena freeze
+ 12dp takleh nak access account diorang dan
+ stormpay bagi statement , diorang freeze sbb ada internal investigation and external on autosurf bisness model, dipercayai ponzi scheme.. pelik jugak.. kenapa setelah almost setahun berurus niaga dengan 12dp and other, baru la nih, cakap dipercayai sistem ni ponzi.. yang selama nih, diorang dapat processing fee.. dan sebagainya.. takkan takpenah kaji kot?
+ stormpay website is down (2 hari), 12dp ok.. menerangkan kepada semua customer jangan panik..
+ kuar brite kat ABC4 news, ada bebudak kat local U (US) pegi edar bisness card, sapa nak cepat kaya.. - letak lambang 12dp kat bisness card dirorang...
+ 12dp hantar bisness model to stormpay. to differentiate them selves from ponzi scheme. Kat bawah nih.. AT explaination
Definition of ponzi scheme vs business model by AlienTrust
In order to qualify as a ponzi scheme the business would need to have no product or service, no scenario to re-buy goods or services and must be predicated on the constant referral of new members/money into it in order to redistribute that money to those at the top. This is what causes the eventual collapse of the model and precisely why it's illegal.
Number 1: We do offer a complete product and service, we sell advertising products to our members that last for a specific time frame. This disqualifies us as a ponzi scheme.
Number 2: Members must re-buy more advertising once their ad buy is completed. They cannot simply advertise for free, they must pay for advertising services, this means that new money is always coming into the business. This disqualifies us as a ponzi scheme.
Number 3: Our business DOES NOT depend on new members constantly coming into the business. As a matter of fact you would see if you bothered to even read the website, we limit our business to 100,000 members and no more. Constantly re-purchased advertising packages fuels the commission process, NOT new money coming in from referrals. Granted new money from new advertisers is certainly part of the picture, but in no way is the company dependent on new advertisers to support the commissions generated through the system. This disqualifies us as a ponzi scheme.
+ stormpay down lagi...
+ customer log balik ke account stormpay - account customer ada yang kosong terus
+ 12dp kumpul legal fund, hire lawyer utk take legal action twrds stormpay - due to no reason to frooze customer / bisness accounts - freezing involve thousand of dollars
+ suddenly stormpay - charge back to all customer account on any payment made by 12dp / AT and other business toward customer - reasons dia nak kumpul balik, dan refund balik kepada customer. PELIKNYA, kenapa nak kena charge back toward customer, yang sesetengahnya tuh tade kaitan pun dgn autosurf business - stormpay sendiri ada bagi paid to click adv, yang itu pun die amik semula.. ?? dan sehingga kini.. tiada pun customer yang dah dapat balik initial investment.. i.e kami - our $780 ???
+ 12dp tiada masalah dengan processor lain - EMO, EGOLD.. account diorang tak kena freeze, sedang berusaha utk payment cashout to customer yang guna EMO, tapi due to 70% duit diorang dalam account stormpay.. so it will delayed.. and slowly progress...
+ skrang semua orang tgh cuba withdraw duit dari stormpay - tade yang percaya dah kat diorang nih
+ ada US customer, yang kena charge back to AC SAVING , uhh.. pening kepala diorang.. tutup bank account
+ aduan terhadap stormpay kepada biro siasatan ape ntah namenye.. mencecah sampai belas ribu dalam masa beberapa hari..
+ uhh banyak lagi fakta nya.. selalunya kami bace update kat sini aje..
http://forums.12dailypro.com/smf/
+ wat mase nih.. tunggu update ajelaa.. hohoho...
+ berjaya 12dp amik tindakan dan unfreeze akaun diorang.. berjaya jugala kami.. hohohoho
hermp.. tapi tgh pk pk.. nak join studiotraffic aaa plak.. diorang ada local business.. eheheh... tak serik serik.. hohohoh
si baju biru tuh, dah pandai dah.. belum lagi kereta masuk area nursery.. baru kat pak guard.. die dah setat merengek dah.. apetah lagi bile nampak pintu nursery.. siap menitik air mata masa orang pas die kat kakak kat 'skol' die tuh. Hermp.. syok dah dia ari tuh dok rumah ngan Tok & Pah nya lama..
